Timing Belt Replacement Issue
#1
Timing Belt Replacement Issue
So I take 2005 V70 2.4 in for a timing belt replacement and my mechanic tells me there’s an oil leak around the cam shafts. I get a quote from him and it’s $1900! I figured it would just be seals, but the quote says, “Replace the timing belt, tensioner pulley, and idler pulley; along with the intake and exhaust Cam Gears.”
the quote breakdown includes front exhaust cam seal, rear camshaft seal, AND EXHAUST AND INTAKE CAMS!
WTH? Seals I get, but why in the **** would the cams need replacing? That’s $750.
please, someone explain this to me!
the quote breakdown includes front exhaust cam seal, rear camshaft seal, AND EXHAUST AND INTAKE CAMS!
WTH? Seals I get, but why in the **** would the cams need replacing? That’s $750.
please, someone explain this to me!
#2
So - your shop may have been burned (had a comeback) when they replaced front seals and did not replace the gears. They are making sure it won't leak, trying to make sure you will be pleased, and not leave a bad review. It's better to be known as expensive than incompetent. You could try only seals without the gears - (my shop did it that way hundreds of times) as long as you understand the gear/s might be leaking. To do the gears later is almost the same job again. The timing belt will be covered in oil and unusable, and the exact labor is needed again (4-6 hours). The only thing that would be reused would be the new front cam seals and the two bearings.
The pcv system better be perfect or those new seals will leak. On a 15 year old car - I would look closely at that system - first.
The tensioner and idler pulleys are always replaced - they are usually the first thing to fail.
Last edited by hoonk; 02-08-2021 at 07:19 PM.
#3
Thanks for the reply, Hoonk.
I just don’t understand how the gears could leak. I’m assuming the gears on the end of the camshafts can’t be replaced, so it’s the whole cam or nothing?
This is a Volvo only shop, highly regarding in the city. They kept my 940 Turbo running until the wheels almost fell off, so I trust them. Lie I mentioned in my original post, replacing seals makes sense, but the whole camshaft(s) just boggled my mind.
There was an oil issue and I just dropping $1300 on having the pan removed, cleaned, and the oil trap diaphragm replaced. If there was an issue with the pcv, I’m sure they would’ve said something.
again, thanks for the insight.
I just don’t understand how the gears could leak. I’m assuming the gears on the end of the camshafts can’t be replaced, so it’s the whole cam or nothing?
This is a Volvo only shop, highly regarding in the city. They kept my 940 Turbo running until the wheels almost fell off, so I trust them. Lie I mentioned in my original post, replacing seals makes sense, but the whole camshaft(s) just boggled my mind.
There was an oil issue and I just dropping $1300 on having the pan removed, cleaned, and the oil trap diaphragm replaced. If there was an issue with the pcv, I’m sure they would’ve said something.
again, thanks for the insight.
#4
The VVT gears use oil pressure piped through the end of the cam to change the cam timing. The VVT solenoids on top of the head send oil pressure to the gears when needed and can move the outer pulley that the belt touches ~15 degrees in relation to the inner pulley. There are seals and a gasket in/on each gear that can leak. Some engines have VVT on both cams, others on just one. Earlier Volvos have solid pulleys. The first Volvo VVT was ~1999? And all pulleys/gears VVT or not unbolt from the end of the cams. Your shop is not talking about camshaft replacement.
Last edited by hoonk; 02-08-2021 at 08:52 PM.
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