Alt not working without instrument cluster
Hi all. I am a new to Volvo 240 wagon owner and discovered something strange today. To clarify I have a 1992 240 wagon.
While doing a few different things to the car to bring it back to 100% eletrically I removed the main gauges. Leaving them off all day and replacing all the little light bulbs. I turned the key on to listen to the radio, I thought no big deal I've done it before with no issue. Not even an hour later I decide to crank it up to recharge the battery. I get really slow turn over followed by nothing, no click of the starter or relay, just nothing. So I think ok I killed the battery, so I simply jump start it with another car and let it run for about 30 minutes. I turn it off and try to crank it again and the same thing, nothing.
Well I tried the old disconnect the negative battery cable trick. What do you know, the engine died. At this pint I pulled out the multimeter and started checking all the voltages. Everything was slowly dropping, battery and the volts off the alt itself.
Got to looking for a set of brushes and can't find any.
Then it hits me, I have a battery light that should come on. I plug in the main cluster and the engine instantly smooths out. No battery light either. Still having the multimeter hooked to the battery I go check the volts again. Very quickly mind you the volts were climbing. Let the car run for a bit then turned it off. Cranked it back up and it ran just fine.
Conclusion: Don't let your car run too long if you don't have your gauges in.
Sorry if this is already on here but I found nothing in my searching.
While doing a few different things to the car to bring it back to 100% eletrically I removed the main gauges. Leaving them off all day and replacing all the little light bulbs. I turned the key on to listen to the radio, I thought no big deal I've done it before with no issue. Not even an hour later I decide to crank it up to recharge the battery. I get really slow turn over followed by nothing, no click of the starter or relay, just nothing. So I think ok I killed the battery, so I simply jump start it with another car and let it run for about 30 minutes. I turn it off and try to crank it again and the same thing, nothing.
Well I tried the old disconnect the negative battery cable trick. What do you know, the engine died. At this pint I pulled out the multimeter and started checking all the voltages. Everything was slowly dropping, battery and the volts off the alt itself.
Got to looking for a set of brushes and can't find any.
Then it hits me, I have a battery light that should come on. I plug in the main cluster and the engine instantly smooths out. No battery light either. Still having the multimeter hooked to the battery I go check the volts again. Very quickly mind you the volts were climbing. Let the car run for a bit then turned it off. Cranked it back up and it ran just fine.
Conclusion: Don't let your car run too long if you don't have your gauges in.
Sorry if this is already on here but I found nothing in my searching.
Last edited by dom2248; Mar 3, 2013 at 03:26 AM.
the alternator needs trickle current through the dashboard alternator light to the D+ terminal to 'jumpstart' itself. if the bulb is out or disconnected, the alternator can't start charging.
the circuit is, battery -> ignition switch -> alternator light -> D+
the circuit is, battery -> ignition switch -> alternator light -> D+
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