cylinder #1 not firing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-26-2013, 07:33 PM
lynleinc's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default cylinder #1 not firing

Would like some opinions. 86 240 dl wagon b230 engine: Cylinder #1 has stopped firing. Mechanic changed spark plugs, distributor / cap and wires. Did not change coil. No improvement. Engine does need new wiring harness. Engine does not smoke (nor has it ever) or seems to have any anti freeze in the oil (vice versa). Going to be getting compression test very soon. Other threads seem to point to valves, rings or entire head needing to be replaced. Does anyone think that it may be electrical, especially if it fails compression test?

Thanks in Advance
Gary
 
  #2  
Old 11-26-2013, 07:58 PM
pierce's Avatar
no mo volvo
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: 37 North on the left coast
Posts: 11,289
Received 101 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

the only thing that distinguishes #1 from any other spark plug is the spark plug wire, and terminal in the rotor.

if it fails a compression test, thats purely mechanical. piston rings, valve, head, gasket, pick one.
 
  #3  
Old 11-26-2013, 09:02 PM
lev's Avatar
lev
lev is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,532
Received 134 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

"Stopped firing"? Firing is a misnomer, and only related to ignition, which you addressed, so if you still have a miss, compression or leakdown test is called for. Compression test is not Pass/Fail. Its results have to be evaluated. Based on the readings of the test, you can see your options, if it's done correctly. With bad wiring though, all bets are off... It may affect one or more injectors... How bad is the wiring?
Post the comp. test readings, go from there.
 
  #4  
Old 11-26-2013, 09:17 PM
pierce's Avatar
no mo volvo
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: 37 North on the left coast
Posts: 11,289
Received 101 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

all 4 injectors are wired together, so if you suspect the wiring to one injector, you can swap it with an adjacent one.
 
  #5  
Old 11-27-2013, 05:13 AM
act1292's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,735
Received 41 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

I'm just curious - how have you determined that cylinder 1 is not firing (as opposed to one of the other cylinders)?
 
  #6  
Old 11-27-2013, 08:00 AM
jagtoes's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 1,194
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

If you hook up an inductive pick up timing light to Cyl #1 spark plug wire does it flash? Simple test also if you pull the plug is it fuel fouled. Once again it's either a fuel or spark issue unless you have 0 compression.
 
  #7  
Old 11-27-2013, 08:18 AM
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 15,765
Likes: 0
Received 30 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by act1292
I'm just curious - how have you determined that cylinder 1 is not firing (as opposed to one of the other cylinders)?
A lot of people pull spark plug wires off of the plugs one at a time until the idle changes. If you pull a wire and have NO change, you found your dead cylinder.

What I don't understand is why a mechanic would NOT immediately check compression when diagnosing a miss? It only takes a minute, pull the plug, stick the gauge in, pull the ignition & fuel and crank.
 
  #8  
Old 11-30-2013, 02:07 AM
pierce's Avatar
no mo volvo
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: 37 North on the left coast
Posts: 11,289
Received 101 Likes on 94 Posts
Default

no feedback from the original poster?

sigh.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Kim Gregory
Volvo S90 & V90
9
03-06-2013 08:40 AM
Untuned
Volvo S70
9
04-09-2011 07:37 AM
pikey
Volvo 240, 740 & 940
2
05-10-2007 01:34 PM
sambagis
Volvo 240, 740 & 940
1
01-24-2007 09:03 PM
J Taylor
Volvo 240, 740 & 940
2
04-12-2006 09:31 PM



Quick Reply: cylinder #1 not firing



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:07 PM.