B5234T Mystery Boiling/Pressure
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B5234T Mystery Boiling/Pressure
I have a 1994 volvo 850T auto, when driving about 8 miles overheats temp rises 3/4 mark then cools down then back up? i have changed the thermostat the thermo houseing flushed the cooling system. I have noticed that the top radiator hose is swelling? The heater in the car works fine.my electric radiator fan works i have no leaks that i have seen i have replaced the green cap for another green one. no water in oil the car will start fine no misfire. no sweet smell or white smoke. somewhat perfect compression on all and all in range of 5 psi max of eachother all @ 180. 2 minutes after operating temp the water begins to boil. Pressure builds up then the top hose starts to swell. after that it steams out the cap. Shut it off cools down runs fine after gets warm again same process over and over. Drives with great pull from turbo no lag or hesitation.
I have previously experienced the overheating due to fan not turning on at all.
when this happened i made it 20 miles before having to stop for a light and start steaming out.
if there is an aire pocket it must be an endless one. i have done some research and tried putting the heater on full blast letting bubbles out but it gets to a point where everything comes up and out.
looks like its boiling/ letting air out then shoots up and out and procedes until the motor is turned off.
I just replaced the heater hose coupling and both heater hoses also thermostat everything is in neatly and no leaks. no interior leaks either.
also replaced the blowpack? resistor for the ecc a/c
now a/c will work at all speed but blows warm, rather hot should i say on drivers side and passenger and ice ice cold through the middle vents
all parts from fcp.
I have previously experienced the overheating due to fan not turning on at all.
when this happened i made it 20 miles before having to stop for a light and start steaming out.
if there is an aire pocket it must be an endless one. i have done some research and tried putting the heater on full blast letting bubbles out but it gets to a point where everything comes up and out.
looks like its boiling/ letting air out then shoots up and out and procedes until the motor is turned off.
I just replaced the heater hose coupling and both heater hoses also thermostat everything is in neatly and no leaks. no interior leaks either.
also replaced the blowpack? resistor for the ecc a/c
now a/c will work at all speed but blows warm, rather hot should i say on drivers side and passenger and ice ice cold through the middle vents
all parts from fcp.
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also after the swap of couplings all vents blew warm air when i put the blower on hot and full. now i would say nowhere near warm as of tonight just trying it one more time. heater core clogged?
Could the ecc module be the cause of different vents blowing different?
or not blowing hot at all?
it does not blow on auto climate only blows on fan speeds
I dont think would still explain this situation. maybe a valve somewhere on the core? i just dont want to go through a whole day pulling the head off for a head gasket thats not blown.
Could the ecc module be the cause of different vents blowing different?
or not blowing hot at all?
it does not blow on auto climate only blows on fan speeds
I dont think would still explain this situation. maybe a valve somewhere on the core? i just dont want to go through a whole day pulling the head off for a head gasket thats not blown.
Last edited by T3AMVOLVO720; 08-20-2010 at 03:29 AM.
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Sounds like a few problems
First, different temps from the HVAC system could mean the motors or the control arms aren't moving the vent covers properly, but it couuld be as easy as having to clean off the temp sensors in the vents above the ECC and up by the grab handles.
If the radiator hose is swelling, it'd be best to replace it - along with the other four radiator hoses.
I'll take a guess that your water pump is shot - I'm guessing your serp. belt is nice and tight?
"looks like its boiling/ letting air out then shoots up and out" - did you install the correct thermostat? You might want to pull it and double-check it's seated properly. I haven't replace one, but I recall reading how they're a bit finicky for the installation.
First, different temps from the HVAC system could mean the motors or the control arms aren't moving the vent covers properly, but it couuld be as easy as having to clean off the temp sensors in the vents above the ECC and up by the grab handles.
If the radiator hose is swelling, it'd be best to replace it - along with the other four radiator hoses.
I'll take a guess that your water pump is shot - I'm guessing your serp. belt is nice and tight?
"looks like its boiling/ letting air out then shoots up and out" - did you install the correct thermostat? You might want to pull it and double-check it's seated properly. I haven't replace one, but I recall reading how they're a bit finicky for the installation.
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The water pump is off the timing belt.
You can go under your dash on the driver side. Check the heater core pipes. Are they getting hot at the same rate as the engine. If they don't get hot, could be the water pump going bad. I'd check there first. You can also check them where they go into the firewall on the engine side, but you really burn your hands on them under the dash. Volvo knows how to generate heat.
You can go under your dash on the driver side. Check the heater core pipes. Are they getting hot at the same rate as the engine. If they don't get hot, could be the water pump going bad. I'd check there first. You can also check them where they go into the firewall on the engine side, but you really burn your hands on them under the dash. Volvo knows how to generate heat.
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Sounds like a few problems
First, different temps from the HVAC system could mean the motors or the control arms aren't moving the vent covers properly, but it couuld be as easy as having to clean off the temp sensors in the vents above the ECC and up by the grab handles.
If the radiator hose is swelling, it'd be best to replace it - along with the other four radiator hoses.
I'll take a guess that your water pump is shot - I'm guessing your serp. belt is nice and tight?
"looks like its boiling/ letting air out then shoots up and out" - did you install the correct thermostat? You might want to pull it and double-check it's seated properly. I haven't replace one, but I recall reading how they're a bit finicky for the installation.
First, different temps from the HVAC system could mean the motors or the control arms aren't moving the vent covers properly, but it couuld be as easy as having to clean off the temp sensors in the vents above the ECC and up by the grab handles.
If the radiator hose is swelling, it'd be best to replace it - along with the other four radiator hoses.
I'll take a guess that your water pump is shot - I'm guessing your serp. belt is nice and tight?
"looks like its boiling/ letting air out then shoots up and out" - did you install the correct thermostat? You might want to pull it and double-check it's seated properly. I haven't replace one, but I recall reading how they're a bit finicky for the installation.
head gasket had little pin holes in it where the coolant chambers where around the cylinders. Im guessing this was the answer. timing it right now starting it in about an hour will repost result hopefully i have found the answer to an issues numorous people are having or have had that i cant find the answer to. I also checked the water pump and was fairly new along with the timing belt. Thanks for all the advice. i figured i would go ahead and replace the gasket anyways. The serp wasnt tight in the case of water pump draggin the fins on the casing. two days ago i took the water pump off new gasket and belts. took her for spin she started right up sounded amazing drove even better than ever. "like the car was on its tippy toes" Gliding with barely any pressure on the gas pedal. she drove good for an hour straight . so i pushed her see if the problem was still a case. She was going going going. after 30 minutes of hard driving temp gauge rose straight to red. i used the "getting home" procedure you know the one with loads of patience. came home started taring aweay at her deeterming to fin the solution. hopefully she will ride nice tonight with no fits of any kind. Again thanks all for the advice. I am still tryting to figure out this a/c problem now though how do you suggest i clean the arms for the vents and also the grasp handle sensor???
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The water pump is off the timing belt.
You can go under your dash on the driver side. Check the heater core pipes. Are they getting hot at the same rate as the engine. If they don't get hot, could be the water pump going bad. I'd check there first. You can also check them where they go into the firewall on the engine side, but you really burn your hands on them under the dash. Volvo knows how to generate heat.
You can go under your dash on the driver side. Check the heater core pipes. Are they getting hot at the same rate as the engine. If they don't get hot, could be the water pump going bad. I'd check there first. You can also check them where they go into the firewall on the engine side, but you really burn your hands on them under the dash. Volvo knows how to generate heat.
I have overhauled this motor numerous times. just got stubbed on this one situation. no cracked block or head had to have been the gasket it had whole in it. As far has the heater core both pipes under dash run hot. i just replaced the top and lower heater hoses along with the firewall coupling for them. Heater core has no leaks very clean also. just no heat blows when i put heat on now except for driver side.
very simple task the coupling but harder to find how to perform repairs.
Thanks for the help
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BTW: T3AM; have you thought the radiator might be clogged?
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Sounds like you need to have a leak down test done. Your going through a lot of labor and headache that could be solved with this test. It makes sense to me that you have a rupture between the cylinder and the cooling system. If the cylinder(s) are pushing air into your cooling system you will swell hoses, pressurize the system, have air get around the thermostat and overheat.
You should be spending all your time on your motor and forget about the heater until you protect your engine. I am only saying this because I did not and ended up having to replace my motor over a similar issue.
You should be spending all your time on your motor and forget about the heater until you protect your engine. I am only saying this because I did not and ended up having to replace my motor over a similar issue.
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this is exactly what my 96 platinum wagon was doing. at 8.3 miles on the dot it would start to get hot, get hot then cool back down. Did a leak down test, held fine. replaced hoses, thermostat, overflow tank and cap, still a problem.
yanked apart the motor last week, found a hole in the head gasket. replaced it, and since then its staying where it should be.
i dont and never have liked gauges that are just lines with no real indication of what the temp actually is. i bought the scan2 from IPD and mine will run at about 197'F and peak at 215. i suspect the higher temps are for two reasons, its 107'f in dallas, and the air guide is missing off the underside of the car.
My S60 is really affected by the air guide, as well was my wifes 850 (rip). i think once a guide is on the temps should stay at a normal operating temp.
when i yanked the head off, i noticed that whomever applied the gasket material prior to my ownership did it in a very sloppy manner, took several hours to clean up all the oil passages, valleys and whatnot.
So far i've had no more signs of any major issues. i'll test it out this week with a few lengthy trips with and without traffic.
yanked apart the motor last week, found a hole in the head gasket. replaced it, and since then its staying where it should be.
i dont and never have liked gauges that are just lines with no real indication of what the temp actually is. i bought the scan2 from IPD and mine will run at about 197'F and peak at 215. i suspect the higher temps are for two reasons, its 107'f in dallas, and the air guide is missing off the underside of the car.
My S60 is really affected by the air guide, as well was my wifes 850 (rip). i think once a guide is on the temps should stay at a normal operating temp.
when i yanked the head off, i noticed that whomever applied the gasket material prior to my ownership did it in a very sloppy manner, took several hours to clean up all the oil passages, valleys and whatnot.
So far i've had no more signs of any major issues. i'll test it out this week with a few lengthy trips with and without traffic.
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