Volvo 850 Made from 1993 to 1997, this Volvo line was available in both a wagon and a sedan, both with were graced with several trim levels.

California and 850R exhaust

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 12:25 AM
  #1  
eriknorcal's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default California and 850R exhaust

Ok, so I'm exploring my options for doing an exhaust on my new 97 850R. I've searched and searched, and it seems that the OBX system is the best bet.

Now here is the issue.. I'm in CA, and smog is royal PITA Technically you cannot mess with the exhaust, from manifold to cat. Cat and rearward is OK to mod. Now the question being: Should I just install the OBX whole system and swap in my cat when smog comes around(not til next march)? Or just try and rig a new cat(2.5") to the OBX system's test pipe and hope the inspector doesn't notice that the DP/test is aftermarket? My brain hurts from trying to figure out a good solution to this! I want a better flowing exhaust, soon.

Also advice on a tune for a CA vehicle would be greatly appreciated!!
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 01:58 AM
  #2  
Chrispy_T's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
From: Cashville TN
Default

My solution would be to move out of California! On a more realistic note, if you're up to the work, get the exhaust but keep the stock manifold and cat laying around for emissions. It's three bolts at the turbo for the downpipe and two for the clamp at the cat. I pulled mine out in about an hour the first time. Those bolts on the bottom clamp need to be hit with PB rust penetrant with "Blu-torch technology"(got a good laugh at that) and lit to cherry red with a good torch to break them off OR if you feel adventurous, cut them off. Now that I think of it, you may have to cut the ball flange on the cat off and replace it with a v-band flange since the OBX pipes use v-bands instead. That mod is still after the cat. California is absolutely nuts and I wouldn't attempt to skirt the system when getting it inspected.
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 01:28 PM
  #3  
Kiss4aFrog's Avatar
Administrator
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,517
Likes: 12
From: Cape Coral, FL
Default

I lived in CA for a bit but never had to do an emissions inspection so I have no experience with it.

I would consider going with the "R" manifold as it is a stock manifold for a 5cyl Volvo and it's a stock looking manifold in cast iron and unless you bumped into an inspector who was also a Volvo owner I doubt he'd notice it enough to research it to find out it's not the stock one for that year.



As for the exhaust pipes. I hung my OBX on the car in the garage with it sitting on jack stands so It's not that hard and doesn't take very long. If you had a stock fitting custom or aftermarket system like the OBX that uses the stock mounts and wanted to swap back the stock system for inspection it would be possible and not that big a job.
 

Last edited by Kiss4aFrog; Jul 2, 2013 at 01:45 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 01:47 PM
  #4  
boxpin's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,702
Likes: 1
From: Rocklin, Ca
Default

You will not pass with an OBX exhaust.

I have a 95 with an EGR. This is what I had to go through to get it to pass. And mind you...I was sent to the BAR so these are the rules I learned.

95 and less, you can modify the intake, change it do whatever.
96 and later, you cannot modify the intake.
All year, you cannot modify the exhaust. You must have the OEM Cat on it or an approved replacement. This does not mean you can put a California approved cat from another car and expect to pass. It has to be an approved cat for your year and model car (I tried with a Cali approved Chevy Cat).

What did I do?
For the EGR I had an R-exhaust manifold modified to accept an EGR port.
Name:  2ac2da12.jpg
Views: 469
Size:  256.6 KB


Took the flange from an angled housing and welded it to the OEM downpipe.
Name:  IMG_0552.jpg
Views: 880
Size:  82.1 KB


Swap it all out when its smog time.

Name:  C58C1ADF-63EE-42DA-8EFC-F5616D65E1CF-2831-000003FE27C6AD3C.jpg
Views: 339
Size:  384.7 KB
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 08:14 PM
  #5  
eriknorcal's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Chrispy_T
My solution would be to move out of California! On a more realistic note, if you're up to the work, get the exhaust but keep the stock manifold and cat laying around for emissions. It's three bolts at the turbo for the downpipe and two for the clamp at the cat. I pulled mine out in about an hour the first time. Those bolts on the bottom clamp need to be hit with PB rust penetrant with "Blu-torch technology"(got a good laugh at that) and lit to cherry red with a good torch to break them off OR if you feel adventurous, cut them off. Now that I think of it, you may have to cut the ball flange on the cat off and replace it with a v-band flange since the OBX pipes use v-bands instead. That mod is still after the cat. California is absolutely nuts and I wouldn't attempt to skirt the system when getting it inspected.
Yes I plan on moving, hopefully a few years but I'll have to smog before that Yes that's def a novel idea, and probably the 'safest'.

Originally Posted by Kiss4aFrog
I lived in CA for a bit but never had to do an emissions inspection so I have no experience with it.

I would consider going with the "R" manifold as it is a stock manifold for a 5cyl Volvo and it's a stock looking manifold in cast iron and unless you bumped into an inspector who was also a Volvo owner I doubt he'd notice it enough to research it to find out it's not the stock one for that year.




As for the exhaust pipes. I hung my OBX on the car in the garage with it sitting on jack stands so It's not that hard and doesn't take very long. If you had a stock fitting custom or aftermarket system like the OBX that uses the stock mounts and wanted to swap back the stock system for inspection it would be possible and not that big a job.
Well doesn't my 97 R already have that manifold?

Originally Posted by boxpin
You will not pass with an OBX exhaust.

I have a 95 with an EGR. This is what I had to go through to get it to pass. And mind you...I was sent to the BAR so these are the rules I learned.

95 and less, you can modify the intake, change it do whatever.
96 and later, you cannot modify the intake.
All year, you cannot modify the exhaust. You must have the OEM Cat on it or an approved replacement. This does not mean you can put a California approved cat from another car and expect to pass. It has to be an approved cat for your year and model car (I tried with a Cali approved Chevy Cat).

What did I do?
For the EGR I had an R-exhaust manifold modified to accept an EGR port.



Took the flange from an angled housing and welded it to the OEM downpipe.



Swap it all out when its smog time.

I work in Rocklin and live in Lincoln.. you'll prob see my white R around at some point. Anyway:

What kind of DP is that?

I was thinkin taking the OBX test pipe and welding in the magnaflow volvo-approved cat. I know most smog techs are not smart enough to know what a stock vs aftermarket DP is.. at least the place I take my cars to. As long as the cat with an EO # is there I would assume it would pass visual.. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Does your car pass with all the mods in your sig, with the stock cat??
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 09:18 PM
  #6  
boxpin's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,702
Likes: 1
From: Rocklin, Ca
Default

I have waved to a white 850 a couple times. Do you work at Jiffy Lube?

Thats an OBX downpipe.
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:06 PM
  #7  
eriknorcal's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by boxpin
I have waved to a white 850 a couple times. Do you work at Jiffy Lube?

Thats an OBX downpipe.
No I work at Carquest auto parts.

This is my car
Name:  24e74033-f2da-410a-b1cc-a80b15fc691d_zpscc54dd3d.jpg
Views: 425
Size:  94.9 KB

Have you passed smog with the setup in your sig? with a cat of course?
 
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2013 | 10:57 PM
  #8  
goldponcho's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
From: Bremerton, Wa
Default

Erik, the "R" manifold came on the later S60R/V70R cars. Your white car, if still stock, has the same manifold as lesser T-5 cars.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 08:17 AM
  #9  
boxpin's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,702
Likes: 1
From: Rocklin, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by eriknorcal

Have you passed smog with the setup in your sig? with a cat of course?
I have not seen your car, sorry.

I took this picture back in January of this year the day I passed smog.

Name:  46D74C33-7CC8-4738-BDE3-668FF666B462-5668-00000666B70974F7.jpg
Views: 441
Size:  322.5 KB



For you, being a 97. You will not be able to make any changes to the intake. i.e. cold intake, cool filter, etc. The problem with the exhaust is that they require you to NOT MODIFY anything between the exhaust manifold down to past the rear O2. After that you can have an open pipe and pass.
You can get away with a 15G, 16T, 18T or 19T turbo because they all use the same housing, they cant tell its bigger. If you go after upgrading the exhaust you should use v-band clamps so it can be changed out. You will have to put it back to stock to smog it.

I cant pass smog at this point with the 20G on there. When its time again I will swap it out.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 01:31 PM
  #10  
crane550's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Default

Ugh....California!
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 03:45 PM
  #11  
boxpin's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,702
Likes: 1
From: Rocklin, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by eriknorcal
I work at Carquest auto parts.
Hah, just over there yesterday getting my Chevy truck smogged at Rocklin Smog.
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 07:07 PM
  #12  
eriknorcal's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by boxpin
Hah, just over there yesterday getting my Chevy truck smogged at Rocklin Smog.
Good ol big daddy ron! Yep he does my cars too..

I think just running the OBX DP and test until smog time will be best. Is it ultra loud with no cat and cat back? Like attratch-attention-from-rocklin PD loud?
 
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2013 | 09:51 PM
  #13  
boxpin's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,702
Likes: 1
From: Rocklin, Ca
Default

I'll drop by and show you.
 
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2013 | 12:40 PM
  #14  
eriknorcal's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by boxpin
I'll drop by and show you.
Sounds good- I work tues-sat 9-5 FYI

If you ever need parts, i can give a good hookup on worldpac parts. We can get a ton of OE stuff
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
850rt5
For Sale / Trade - Archive
1
Dec 6, 2013 05:46 PM
clawless
For Sale / Trade - Archive
0
Nov 10, 2011 11:00 PM
capwheel
Volvo C70
2
Oct 21, 2011 04:35 PM
Rasputin
New Members Area
2
Apr 16, 2008 10:21 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:16 AM.