I have a 1996 850 turbo and I was wondering, is a front mount intercooler much better, and what immediate difference do u feel? How much would I b spending on parts because I am very much mechanicaly inclined. Thanks in advance for ur reply. Oh and if anyone has any pics of their own work concerning your intercooler that would b great. Also planning on getting silicone hoses, any input on that would b appreciated also. Sorry for putting too many subjects on this thread.

 

There are several writeups on FMICs. They say its noticable. You can get the generic kits on ebay for pretty cheap. I can say much more than that, I run a RIP

 

I wouldn't do it if you dont have a stand along system for how much air ratio is in the system Already tried it. talk about boost lag out the ***. If you got a bigger turbo and bigger injectors it will work. For reals the only time you change fmic if your making big whp but correct me if am wrong

 

You should see LESS turbo lag if you ran your pipes properly. Generally when folks run their lines for a FMIC you shorten up your length of pipe considerably. It shouldnt affect the tune you run at all, because all it's doing is dropping your intake charge temp.

 

Have you installed 1 yet on your car. after i installed mine all it was turbo lag out the *** to much air ratio got have some kinda engine management this is no honda here. just plain simple stay away from the ebay kit just save an buy it from ipd. the stock fmic is way bigger than the ebay kit, ipd fmic is the same length but is a litter thicker.

 

Let us be clear here. We are talking two different things.

FMIC or Front Mount InterCooler is bypassing the entire intercooling pipe system and running an external intercooler in front of the existing OEM intercooler.

RIP or Reverse Intercooler Piping is using the existing Intercooler but replacing all other hoses and reversing the direction the air enters into the intercooler. OEM is bottom to top, RIP is top to bottom and removes 14" of hosing over OEM.

Anytime you increase the size of the piping it talkes more air to fill that difference....result, boost lag. The nice part about the RIP kit over a FMIC kit is that you have taken 14" of volume out of the system that the turbo does not have to fill, great for more OEM systems. The reason people go with FMIC is because you can get large piping all the way through the system and potentially have a larger capacity intercooler too. In order to do this you must have the turbo to fill the void or you will experience lag.

Amen

 

Okay, I am currently stock and I am not running RIP but have been also considering it. IPD does Have a larger Intercooler which isn't front mount but replaces stock intercooler, which i was thinking of getting along with the RIP (3" or 2.5" haven't figured which is best yet) piping. I am still running the 15g Turbo and the intercooler and piping is the very first mod that i will be doing on my car. Next will b K&N drop in filter (air box is very good, no need for open element IMO) then ECU remap (any suggested on where i should handle that is appreciated), then ipd exhaust ( I CAN'T FRAKIN' WAIT!!!). Oh and Stage 0 is just about complete. If i get the larger IPD stock replacement intercooler and also RIP setup, would that be better than a FMIC with 2.5" piping? I just want to know what would lessen the Turbo lag and increase power the best, also keeping in mind the ECU remap and exhaust. 16T and 18T upgrade being thought of also.

 

I have a drop in filter sitting in my garage. I cant say its a K&N but its a cheese cloth filter...its blue. Dont know the brand.

 

Lol, cheese cloth? Seriously thats your best description? Makes sense though. "Boxpin", so its similar to the K&N? Also are u selling it? I see you are running a modified Cold Air Intake, how did you go about doing that? are u pulling in any substantial hot air under the hood or have u actually modified it to pull from elsewhere?

 

Boxpin: this is well stated. Another way to explain it is to just say that boost lag is a function of the volume of the interior piping plus the volume of the intercooler. If you are running a huge front mount, and run 2.75" piping to it, you have a LOT of volume inside your pipes, regardless of how short you make them. The only way to overcome turbo lag with a large volume FMIC/piping is going to be to get a lerger turbo, which moves a larger volume of air.

 

I agree with "ibified", If I were you I wouldn't go with an FMIC unless you were going to do some serious turbo upgrades otherwise you will get a lot of lag. keep in mind shes just 2.3 liters, However if you do decide to go with an FMIC setup don't go too big you need to keep everything in balance.