Volvo 850 Made from 1993 to 1997, this Volvo line was available in both a wagon and a sedan, both with were graced with several trim levels.

Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

Old Feb 5, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Well guys,
Thanks to your help I replaced the rear brake pads(Cheap Oreilley's Auto Parts Pads)...However I did not put the thin, silver shims back in because I had a hard time getting the piston pushed back (Yes I had the brake fill resevoir open). So I just had to force the pads in without the shims. I also didn't have any new springs or anti-rattle clips...Is this a problem that I didn't put the shims and anti-rattle clips back in???
So far 10 miles so good...

Thanks in advance for your time....
Joe

Here is a link with the stuff i'm talking about...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DG
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

i think most ppl here will say you should ALWAYS use volvo pads and half shims to keep the brakes from squealing...personally, i dont care. what ive noticed is that once I brake a few times, the squeal goes away. I got mine at Oreilley's as well [&:]
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

I heard that too but couldn't refuse 13 dollars for rear pads...
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

I heard that too but couldn't refuse 13 dollars for rear pads...
Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt. You will learn. Unless you have a really great foreign parts store you will not get pads that won't squeal. OEMS are good, they don't squeal, but they are dirty. With proper shims and grease or, in my case, some Permetex anti squeak goop, the Mintex Reds do OK as well. Anything from the chain stores -within a couple of hundred miles - is going to get noisy.

To get your calipers open you need one of these. They are dirt cheap and they are very effective. Leave an old pad onthe piston side while compressing it.

http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdbrak07.html

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

If the spring kits did not have signs of corrosion, they should be fine. The pads may start squealing without the shims, but you can leave them for now. As to stop-squeal compound, either silicone-based grease or molybdenum-based grease, such as CV-joint grease, would do the trick. Generic "brake-quiet" grease wouldn't do.

There should have been enough gap to replace pads & shims, if you have compressed the pistons fully. This job requires the tool Lee mentioned, a Vise-grip or a C-clamp. I used 10WR Vise Grip.


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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

Yeah I used that tool on my Chevy, easier because the entire caliper came off... and I tried it on the volvo, but I just couldn't get it to fit right...
Thanks for you input...
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

yeh, how do you fit anything in the rear caliper since it stays on the rotor? this is the first time in 20 years I have seen pads that can be replaced without taking the calipers off. C clamps have always been my friends, but this was alien to me...
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

I agree with JPN, if the springs and clips were not corroded or bent they should be fine to reuse. I would have used the shims with a healthy dose of anti-squeal goop, but the worse you may get is some squeal.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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I reuse them all the time.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

I reused mine. never got the answer to my question about compressing the piston though...
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Default RE: Just replaced the rear pads on 1994 850, however, no new springs&shims put in, is this bad?

I use channel locks with the pads still in to compress the piston most of the way. Then I turn the channel locks sideways and pry between the caliper and piston to finish pushing it in.
 
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