2010 C70 Won't Start...
They haven't changed much in that area, so I have no idea what you are talking about. I just replaced a head on a 2012 last week for the same thing.
I don't blame myself for everything. But I have no problem admitting fault. You hit something. Not Volvo. If Volvo would have told you it was an interference engine, would you have bought a different car? If so, you are the extreme minority. Plenty of people drive interference engine equipped cars without issue. It's easy if you maintain it and don't hit something.
I don't blame myself for everything. But I have no problem admitting fault. You hit something. Not Volvo. If Volvo would have told you it was an interference engine, would you have bought a different car? If so, you are the extreme minority. Plenty of people drive interference engine equipped cars without issue. It's easy if you maintain it and don't hit something.
If I runover something the tire exploded, or the axle bent, ..., that's my fault; but if that caused the whole car body melt down and the car disappeared, I usually don't consider that as my fault.
BTW, the shop owner helped a dentist win a lawsuit against Volvo engine problems before and now he has free lifetime dental service...
This is called smart.
This is called smart.
Last edited by WhyVolvo; Aug 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM.
A similar example that may help you lose your loyalty completely:
Suppose Volvo put brake line too close to an engine belt without any protection. The driver didn't do any maintenance on the belt and didn't check the belt before he drives downhill. The belt breaks and cut off the brake line. He lost control and drove into the ocean...
Do you think his family will hold Volvo responsible and take them to court for this? I bet 100% they will and they will win too!
The reason is simple: it's Volvo who decided to put two completely independent, irrelevant, unrelated things together without proper separation/protection. And the poor guy lost his life because of it!
Now timing belt/mechanisms and AC compressor belt are also two completely independent, irrelevant, unrelated things! Do I need to tell you who decided to put them together without proper separation/protection?
Suppose Volvo put brake line too close to an engine belt without any protection. The driver didn't do any maintenance on the belt and didn't check the belt before he drives downhill. The belt breaks and cut off the brake line. He lost control and drove into the ocean...
Do you think his family will hold Volvo responsible and take them to court for this? I bet 100% they will and they will win too!
The reason is simple: it's Volvo who decided to put two completely independent, irrelevant, unrelated things together without proper separation/protection. And the poor guy lost his life because of it!

Now timing belt/mechanisms and AC compressor belt are also two completely independent, irrelevant, unrelated things! Do I need to tell you who decided to put them together without proper separation/protection?
Last edited by WhyVolvo; Aug 23, 2015 at 01:41 PM.
They timing belt and compressor belt are not two completely independent, irrelevant, unrelated things. They are both belt driven. Belts are driven by the crankshaft pulley. Both these belts are driven by the crankshaft pulley. There are plenty of cars that have both a timing belt and accessory belt(s). And when those driver's don't hit something, the belts are just fine.
But once again, you seem to think that it is some engineering flaw, like the tensioner without a pointless cutoff sensor or a crank sensor with two circuits running through it. The damage was caused by operator error. Plain and simple.
But once again, you seem to think that it is some engineering flaw, like the tensioner without a pointless cutoff sensor or a crank sensor with two circuits running through it. The damage was caused by operator error. Plain and simple.
Yeah, since you and your car are both driven by the same car, you and your car are not two completely independent, irrelevant, unrelated things... 
Therefore, Volvo doesn't need to do anything to protect you. If anything happens to your car, you should be hurt or killed too (just like the engine)...
Blind loyalty does affect one's judgement, doesn't it?
Hint: a small metal plate with the right shape and mounted on the right spot on the engine block can effectively prevent the compressor belt from going into the timing area. It will cost less than $1.

Therefore, Volvo doesn't need to do anything to protect you. If anything happens to your car, you should be hurt or killed too (just like the engine)...

Blind loyalty does affect one's judgement, doesn't it?
Hint: a small metal plate with the right shape and mounted on the right spot on the engine block can effectively prevent the compressor belt from going into the timing area. It will cost less than $1.
Last edited by WhyVolvo; Aug 24, 2015 at 05:20 AM.
You will dream up an argument for anything, no matter how flawed it is. But I'm done. Just sell your Volvo and complain about your next car when you break it.
You would be the guy who sues McDonalds after spilling hot coffee on himself.
You would be the guy who sues McDonalds after spilling hot coffee on himself.
Last edited by ES6T; Aug 24, 2015 at 05:37 AM.
Then the best outcome is you will be as wealthy as I am, which is not much... 
Have a little bit higher expectation in life, will you?
BTW, if you didn't pay for my invention, then you can't sue.

Have a little bit higher expectation in life, will you?

BTW, if you didn't pay for my invention, then you can't sue.
Well, you missed the point again: it's not the seal, it's because it's cheap plastic!
The shredded compressor belt can easily break the plastic cover and get into the timing belt. I saw those plastic pieces in the pan.
Do I need to tell you what will happen if there is a metal piece there?
The shredded compressor belt can easily break the plastic cover and get into the timing belt. I saw those plastic pieces in the pan.
Do I need to tell you what will happen if there is a metal piece there?
After more than a couple of weeks and more than $6K, I finally got my C70 back and it runs great!
They pretty much replaced everything: timing/all belts/tensioners, water pump, spark plugs/coils, they even replaced one whole axle just because the boot on it was broken and insurance paid.
So I am very happy with my insurance company and decided to help them get their money back from Volvo.
The only thing we need to prove is: Volvo knew the problem and didn't make any reasonable effort to correct it.
Here is how this part looks like:

You can see there is nothing between the front AC pulley and the timing pulley: so debris can get in timing area easily.
They pretty much replaced everything: timing/all belts/tensioners, water pump, spark plugs/coils, they even replaced one whole axle just because the boot on it was broken and insurance paid.
So I am very happy with my insurance company and decided to help them get their money back from Volvo.
The only thing we need to prove is: Volvo knew the problem and didn't make any reasonable effort to correct it.
Here is how this part looks like:

You can see there is nothing between the front AC pulley and the timing pulley: so debris can get in timing area easily.
Last edited by WhyVolvo; Sep 14, 2015 at 08:46 AM.


