Welcome to the forum!

 

We are forum all-stars i guess....

Just saying if you are going to talk about another group of people essentially calling them douchebags at least make sure the people you said that about do not see what you said. Because he came on our forum asking if their are oil change tricks....really? oh and here is the proof before you say im lying:

http://forums.maxima.org/8038244-post150.html

oh and before you consider me a waste of bandwidth look my SN up on VS and Turbobricks.

Your welcome.

 

Well, I can't speak for the comments of others but I was the one that felt it kinda sucked in the first place. I'm sure you read some of my initial comments here but this is why I said that...

I went to the form and starting reading trying to figure out some basic information about the car. Easy stuff like, oil weight, amount, etc. I looked and looked and read and read to find NOTHING. However, I did read several time that I SHOULD NOT POST without reading for several hours. Heck, I spent more time reading that form than I did working on the car. Here you can drop on, post a question, get 3 different or same answers within 12 hours and be on your way. I bet I spent a week or better wading through that forum.

Then I finally did break down and posted a few questions. When I posted the questions I got 1/2 answers at best. That SUCKS!!! Then one guy spent more time treating me like a dumb a*% than answering my simple questions. Well, that's how it goes sometimes. I do have a couple of questions over there that are still not answered so if you have time you can check my profile and knock 'em out real quick.

It was hard finding things over there and the thing that made it a little worse is the fact that NISSAN does not have their owners manuals on line for older cars.

I think you can get most questions about an 850 answered here in less than 30 minutes, self serve. Reading through a tread with over 750 post is pretty crazy if you are really looking for a QUICK answer. Check out our sticky for 850. Heck, you can buy and rebuild one in less than 2 days on here.

 

Oh yea, we get visitors here all the time that are looking for something for their dad, mom, girl friend, etc., and what we do, is try to HELP THEM. I think that's what these forum things are all about, helping someone that needs a little help, if you can. Not ignornig them because they have less than 3 post and under a month on the forum.

 

Oh, btw, I went over to the MAXI site and there are a bunch of comments about this thread. A lot more responses than answered questions.

The thing that NONE OF THEM has noticed is that this thread was started about the '91 Maxi I had, not the '99. Yes I had 2 Maximums this year.

I'll go over there and give them full disclosure when I find my password.

 

dude here's the deal, the majority of older cars, like the 95-99 maxima and the 95 generation 850 you own, is a hand-me-down. I'm not saying yours is, but most of them are. most of our members on our site know more in certain areas, I.E, F/I, interiors, lighting, etc. and most of the people that know the most about our cars have bought something else, and moved on. but they still do usually drop on in and say hi every once and a while, and you can ask each and everyone of them. none of them regret owning the max. Also, I totally agree with you, the org has no patience with 'noobies.' a lot of them can be a-holes. trust me, I know, I own a max and am on that site - lol. I've been in your position, but I just brushed it off my shoulder. if you want tips for your oil change, drive around the block a couple times, park it, remove the dipstick, and drain the oil. other than that, it's straight through. here's a link.
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...on-maxima.html

cheers.

 

Copy of my post at the Maxi site.
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Well, 1st off, I'm not a NEWBIE. I've been participating in auto forms for years. Just my first post here. And as you seen in my reply to you guys answering my question about the '99 Maxi, I did appreciate it and said thanks.

However, this post was made on 6.29.11. Way after I posted the "Maxi.org Kinda Sucks" comment over on the Volvo form on 5.6.11. I posted a couple of questions about a '91 Maxi that I picked up and got a bunch of crap. New or not, still should not have been treated like crap.

This thread was great, what I expected in the first place when visiting a forum. As for the light on the dash being on, I had the ignition on without the car running. I am use to all of the lights being on before the car is started and was wondering why I did not see a few, ie the low fuel light, etc. Also, Volvo's show a cel when the knock sensor is bad, wasn't sure why it wasn't making the light come on here. However, within minutes TigerSharkDude answered that question to my satisfaction. Great, I was/am thrilled. A much different experience that I had 58 days prior on the 3rd gen section.

When I first logged on, in the 3rd gen section, I flat out told the guys that I looked and looked, searched and searched and could not find the simple answer to my question. I also DID DO A GOOGLE search and could NOT find a manual for that car (I did find the one for the '99). So, as my question may have been answered several years ago, I could not find the answer so I asked. I would have been nice if THEY would have given me the common courtesy of answering the questions since I was an visitor from another site. Something that most of the VolvoForums guys would have been glad to do in a minute.

As for my auto experience, I have been tinkering with cars since I was 14. I worked in an auto body shop. From there I was trained how to replace tires on the rims, and has worked/serviced my own cars since. However, I do suffer from OCD and would rather ask what oil weight goes in a car than to put in the WRONG stuff. When in doubt - ask. Most auto makers put a label under the hood with the data on it, heck the '95 Saturn that I work on in July had it stamped right on the motor or oil cap. No need to ask that question. I'd rather service my car myself than to deal with the hacks at most professional shops. Beyond that, I have several years as an aircraft mechanic where I service airplanes all over the world so no, I really don't need anyone to hold my hands while I change oil. Just reading through the 3rd gen section that were about 90 different post about what filter to use and what oil goes where, yada yada yada, just sick!

So, when I logged back in here to figure out why Crusher and that other T-Behr904 is going nuts instead of reading my post and finding out why I said that, OR simply asked me why I posted that instead of going nuts, I quickly learned that you can not find my stats. So, back to my initial experience... Maxima.org kinda sucks!

 

@VQ30, Man, I'm not bent that the guys in the 3rd gen section were hard to deal with, just frustrating for me to spend all that time over there just to be snubbed by some kids that probably could never buy a car, that's why they are driving a 3rd gen Maxi. Heck, they were probably haters because I found one with only 63k on it and was giving it away. Besides that, I'm sure I have given away more cars than most of them have owned. That's what I do, GIVE.

But let those guys know, it's ok to suck sometimes. Life will show may opportunities to suck or rise above all others. No big deal, I suck at a lot of things. However, I did want you and Crusher know that I didn't say that because someone treated me well as I was on that one thread. If I had time to dig up those other threads, which I don't (since the "find all post by this user" feature doesn't work, I would show them the post I was referring to. PEACE

 

I apologize for your less than par experience with the org.

 

Wow, that was a lot of butthurt that could have been avoided.

 

If you dont like the forum, cool. We have our share of dicks on the site, im most likely one of them but the people that responded to you tried to help you. And oil changes are basic knowledge, we are beyond those, if finding that info in the owners manual or FSM is difficult.....i dont know what to say. You can put any car infront of me i will figure out how to change the oil with in 5 mins. Google works wonders.

But we caught your *** lol.

 

 

What was it that you caught me doing? I made it very plain while on the Maxi site that I did NOT appreciate how I was treated. As for the oil change issue that you have absolutely NO knowledge of because you have not seen the post, it was a simple question, what weight and how much. A simple question that could have easily been answered. I'm glad to hear that you are so smart and can google stuff and go from there. I guess going to the source, the Maxi site and the dealer was a dumb thing to do on my part. Just figured "hey, let me ask these guys, they will know and help me." Not to mention the dealer gave the the WRONG information. If your not pushing one of their cars or letting them do the work, I get the same finger you guys are giving me. Try not to hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for coming over here and "calling me out" or for the help you gave me. As I said, I let the other guy know I felt he sucked when it happened. So, I wasn't trying to hide anything, I could have deleted this thread when I was done with it. Also, u can pm me if you're not trying to show your ***.

 

Studys show that in the age of the Internet, people are less likely to remember or know things off-hand, and instead simply remember where to find information.

Simply put, When dealing with people like this, you might as well google the answer yourself. That's all there doing.

All forums, infact. All of the Internet follow a simple formula. 20/80. 20% of the people, contribute 80% of useful information. I'm sure Maxi forums is no different. Remember that when arguing with someone who has 50 posts a day, There almost always useless.

 

Yeah, what would be the point of forums if we just Google'd everything?
If someone is way over the knowledge of something, and is tired of stupid questions they know, don't answer them.
I find it funny when people ask dumb questions like where does the oil go, but then I realize I once asked the same question. I appreciated a person who gave a nice answer and didn't humiliate me.

 

I had a really long reply intended here, but I'd like to make nice instead of inciting another argument.

rspi. I honestly wouldn't waste your time. Remember. Every car has it's person. Alot of these Japanese cars, when a few years older are highly affordable for the younger crowd. There easy to work on, easy to maintain. Much of that leads way for kids who arent as financially stable (like me) to learn about cars. On the flip side. It's also a breeding ground for arrogance. When you have a car so easy to work on, kids do there first brake job and think there ASE certified. I used to be the SAME way when I was about 15 and I got my first car. It's a sad moment, but many people grow out of it when they get spanked enough.

Like the kids have there fun. You seem like a nice dude, Don't get winded over it.

 

I'm alright. Just trying to help those guys understand what actually happened. I have noticed that these forms have different flows and when you break that flow you will probably not get the help you need. This form seems to be more low key and friendly to entry level questions. Some forums are flat out dead, like a ghost town.

Not sure if I agree with the easy to work on statement. My neighbor work a week or more on getting his spark plugs out of his '98 Maximum. The one closest to the drivers seat had the boot slide off of the coil pack and he could NOT get it out. I had to get it for him with a fishing hook extractor I fabricated. He had a couple of other things I had to help him with, kind of a mess. I will say that they don't need as much repairs as these FWD Volvos do. I had over 200k on a Accord I had and the only thing I can remember doing on the car was a bearing. Other than that, just oil changes & a timing belt. You can get 250 - 300 out of those cars easy. They are easy to own. As with many cars, it's a shame that people let them die by not doing the maintenance.

 

Oh true enough. Some of the Japanese engine designs are just plain weird. I was actually about to buy a 1992 Maxima (GREAT condition), But it had the big V6 crammed into it. Needed some work done, and I passed it up. It was STUFFED lol. Makes my Volvo look like a cake-walk.

 

When I purchased my '87 740 GLE I quickly learned that the RWD Volvo's were designed to help the mechanic out as well. The car is so easy to work on it's silly to pay someone to work on it for you. There are many things about the 850 design that I think is the same, even though FWD cars are loaded up front anyway. Most stuff is still easy, just time consuming on a few things.

 

Alot of it is fear though. The cars seem very foreign and so people are afraid to get close. I must admit, although many of the Volvo designs are simple once you learn them, I still can't figure out this stupid flame trap thing. I need a book. None of the pictures I can find make any sense.