hydraulic lifter noise
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Sad to say that you may have to crack that motor and replace a few lifters. When you go in there you may want to replace all of them. Not sure how to test to see if the others are weak or not.
Also, do you know if the PO used dino oil or synthetic? I'm on this kick and would like to know. I like to believe that a motor will NOT have any internal issues if synthetic is used. Trying to kill that myth.
When you do crack the motor, take a few pics and let us know if you see any sludge.
Also, do you know if the PO used dino oil or synthetic? I'm on this kick and would like to know. I like to believe that a motor will NOT have any internal issues if synthetic is used. Trying to kill that myth.
When you do crack the motor, take a few pics and let us know if you see any sludge.
Last edited by rspi; 01-10-2012 at 12:15 PM. Reason: addition
#47
Not sure if it does damage or not. It surely stresses something else if it's not doing it's job. The big thing to me is that you should check everything in that drive train if you're going to have it off for that problem. My guess is that they simply pull out once you get the cam out of the way.
While in there you'll need to check the valves and stuff like that.
I'm not sure if the car has a valve cover that comes off without taking pressure off the entire head. If the valve cover can be removed and the head left on (still has torqued bolts in it), then the job won't be as bad. But if you have to take bolts out that secure the head then you should go forward with replacing the head gasket to.
Check a few threads that talk about head gasket replacement and you should be able to see if you have to pull bolts out of the head when you remove the valve cover.
While in there you'll need to check the valves and stuff like that.
I'm not sure if the car has a valve cover that comes off without taking pressure off the entire head. If the valve cover can be removed and the head left on (still has torqued bolts in it), then the job won't be as bad. But if you have to take bolts out that secure the head then you should go forward with replacing the head gasket to.
Check a few threads that talk about head gasket replacement and you should be able to see if you have to pull bolts out of the head when you remove the valve cover.
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I doubt you will get a lifter out without removing the cam. So, everything that you have to take off to get the cam out will have to be removed. Check out this write up. It's in the DIY sticky.
https://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-...ts-pics-44879/
https://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-...ts-pics-44879/
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too bad the noise is back again. it was quiet till l changed my oil,now this is what it does, it knocks real hard and gets very quiet and knocks real hard and gets quiet.l called FCP and told them about this.l think the Set of lifters l got was not good.
#55
what did you do next?did you sell the car or you still have it? are your lifters still knocking?
#56
If it's quiet when it starts up it's because the oil is physically thicker before it starts to warm up. You could try going to a thicker oil or even a straight weight oil like a 40 or 50 weight during the summer. It would be more of a test as you'd have to revert to something thinner come fall.
If it's quiet when it starts up it's likely you have very worn bearings or lifters that can't stay pumped up once the oil gets thinner. Compression reading wouldn't hurt but it may not really direct you to the problem.
Lucas injector cleaner would be a very good thing to do. As for the marvel the problem is that if you had a sticky lifter it "should", should be sticky from the time you start it until you shut it down. If it's quiet at first it's likely NOT a lifter that is sticky. It could just be normal wear and clearances that are too large for the oil to fill properly.
Did the ticking or knocking come on abruptly??
Have you had it long and have you regularly changed oil and filter??
What weight oil are you running and is it a synthetic or ??
The other thing that would be really important to know is the oil pressure. You might be losing pressure as the temp builds and the oil gets thinner. It could be a bad pump, a bad oil pressure relief valve or spring or for an 850 there are seals in the pan that can wear out and allow some of the flow to bleed off so the engine isn't getting what the pump is pushing out.
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...hp?f=1&t=11256
If it's quiet when it starts up it's likely you have very worn bearings or lifters that can't stay pumped up once the oil gets thinner. Compression reading wouldn't hurt but it may not really direct you to the problem.
Lucas injector cleaner would be a very good thing to do. As for the marvel the problem is that if you had a sticky lifter it "should", should be sticky from the time you start it until you shut it down. If it's quiet at first it's likely NOT a lifter that is sticky. It could just be normal wear and clearances that are too large for the oil to fill properly.
Did the ticking or knocking come on abruptly??
Have you had it long and have you regularly changed oil and filter??
What weight oil are you running and is it a synthetic or ??
The other thing that would be really important to know is the oil pressure. You might be losing pressure as the temp builds and the oil gets thinner. It could be a bad pump, a bad oil pressure relief valve or spring or for an 850 there are seals in the pan that can wear out and allow some of the flow to bleed off so the engine isn't getting what the pump is pushing out.
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...hp?f=1&t=11256
#57
If it's quiet when it starts up it's because the oil is physically thicker before it starts to warm up. You could try going to a thicker oil or even a straight weight oil like a 40 or 50 weight during the summer. It would be more of a test as you'd have to revert to something thinner come fall.
If it's quiet when it starts up it's likely you have very worn bearings or lifters that can't stay pumped up once the oil gets thinner. Compression reading wouldn't hurt but it may not really direct you to the problem.
Lucas injector cleaner would be a very good thing to do. As for the marvel the problem is that if you had a sticky lifter it "should", should be sticky from the time you start it until you shut it down. If it's quiet at first it's likely NOT a lifter that is sticky. It could just be normal wear and clearances that are too large for the oil to fill properly.
Did the ticking or knocking come on abruptly??
Have you had it long and have you regularly changed oil and filter??
What weight oil are you running and is it a synthetic or ??
The other thing that would be really important to know is the oil pressure. You might be losing pressure as the temp builds and the oil gets thinner. It could be a bad pump, a bad oil pressure relief valve or spring or for an 850 there are seals in the pan that can wear out and allow some of the flow to bleed off so the engine isn't getting what the pump is pushing out.
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...hp?f=1&t=11256
If it's quiet when it starts up it's likely you have very worn bearings or lifters that can't stay pumped up once the oil gets thinner. Compression reading wouldn't hurt but it may not really direct you to the problem.
Lucas injector cleaner would be a very good thing to do. As for the marvel the problem is that if you had a sticky lifter it "should", should be sticky from the time you start it until you shut it down. If it's quiet at first it's likely NOT a lifter that is sticky. It could just be normal wear and clearances that are too large for the oil to fill properly.
Did the ticking or knocking come on abruptly??
Have you had it long and have you regularly changed oil and filter??
What weight oil are you running and is it a synthetic or ??
The other thing that would be really important to know is the oil pressure. You might be losing pressure as the temp builds and the oil gets thinner. It could be a bad pump, a bad oil pressure relief valve or spring or for an 850 there are seals in the pan that can wear out and allow some of the flow to bleed off so the engine isn't getting what the pump is pushing out.
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...hp?f=1&t=11256
it get real quiet for a while then it comes on loud.like all the lifters are ticking.ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta.LOL
its quiet and from noowhere starts knocking like crazy real loud like its priming the lifters.
l have always been on time with oil changes.after l changed my lifters, l didnt change my oil and it was very quiet for days.even had videos taken. after l changed my oil, l drove for like 5 miles and it started ticking abruptly.
right now l am running fully synthetic, 10w-30. l will take a video of both being loud and quiet and post it up.
#58
Do you do any steady highway driving?
I did round town driving for more than two weeks straight, 10 miles a day round-trip, 6 days a week. That caused my motor to get a steady ticking noise.
The day it started to tick I got on the highway, got up to 85-90mph for a few mins. After I exited, I pulled over to listen, the ticking was gone.
A steady 3,ooo rpm+ cured the sporadic ticking. I only use mobil1 syn 15w-50, change every 6 months/3000 miles.
I did round town driving for more than two weeks straight, 10 miles a day round-trip, 6 days a week. That caused my motor to get a steady ticking noise.
The day it started to tick I got on the highway, got up to 85-90mph for a few mins. After I exited, I pulled over to listen, the ticking was gone.
A steady 3,ooo rpm+ cured the sporadic ticking. I only use mobil1 syn 15w-50, change every 6 months/3000 miles.
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