Volvo 850 Made from 1993 to 1997, this Volvo line was available in both a wagon and a sedan, both with were graced with several trim levels.

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Old 10-29-2009, 11:32 AM
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This is my '94 850. Car was running great yesterday with no problems.

I went to start my car this morning and it started up, but was running really rough and was making some noises. I shut it off and tried to start it again, but did not start. It almost sounds like no compression when turning over. I checked for spark and it has it. I tried to get a fuel pressure gauge on it, but the throttle cable bracket is in the way. It does seem to have pressure after each time of turning the key on, so I am assuming the pump is running. I tried cranking it over more, but the battery died and I can't seem to get it charged by jumping it. I checked out the timing marks and they still look lined up. The belt is in tact and still has good tension, so I don't think the timing belt jumped. I looked through the spark plug hole and could not see anything abnormal like damage, coolant, etc. I do not see any coolant in the oil and the coolant level is fine.

I did a compression test and here are the results.
#1-130 psi
#2-180 psi
#3-180 psi
#4-170 psi
#5-180 psi

I know #1 cylinder is quite a bit off, but shouldn't the car still run?

I am going to get the throttle cable bracket off so I can get a fuel pressure gauge on it.
 

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Have fuel pressure. Is at 40 psi when cranking over. Can feel injectors pulsing.
 
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Turbo or no turbo?
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:24 PM
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If it did run, it would run very badly with that much of a compression difference in cyl #1.
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Legendsecko87
Turbo or no turbo?
Non-turbo

Originally Posted by fcpgroton
If it did run, it would run very badly with that much of a compression difference in cyl #1.
What would all of the sudden cause that kind of compression loss? It has been running fine before this.

I noticed that the tach is doing nothing.

I got some codes from A3 and they were 213,214, and 442. There was no stored codes in A2 or A6. A7 had 122 and 132.

I guess the code in A7 would explain nothing on the tach, but would it cause a no start?
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:12 PM
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I tested the rpm sensor and it is working fine. I am going to replace the battery because it does not seem to be taking a charge. I know some cars are very sensitive to battery voltage, so I hope this is the problem.
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:13 PM
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130 PSI wouldn't cause an outright misfire. You should notice a bit of instability at idle, but that's it. I'd start with the RPM sensor code. The sensor itself is fine... that's no surprise, magnetic sensors rarely go bad- they're a magnet, a coil or wire. Nothing more. But wiring can go bad. So check the wiring between the ECM and sensor for continuity as a first step. Keep in mind- codes don't tell you what is wrong with the vehicle, they merely tell you where it "hurts." They can help you to make a diagnosis, they aren't, in themselves, a diagnosis. Good luck!
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrots
130 PSI wouldn't cause an outright misfire. You should notice a bit of instability at idle, but that's it. I'd start with the RPM sensor code. The sensor itself is fine... that's no surprise, magnetic sensors rarely go bad- they're a magnet, a coil or wire. Nothing more. But wiring can go bad. So check the wiring between the ECM and sensor for continuity as a first step. Keep in mind- codes don't tell you what is wrong with the vehicle, they merely tell you where it "hurts." They can help you to make a diagnosis, they aren't, in themselves, a diagnosis. Good luck!
I know there is a problem with the battery and that is why I am going to change that before I go any farther. It's 5 years old anyways, so it should get changed before winter. If that does not fix the problem, I will move on to checking the wiring. I was also talking to a mechanic friend of mine and he was saying there is a TSB for a ground that goes bad and can cause hard starting or a no start. I will get that cleaned like the TSB says to do.

Will have updates tomorrow!
 
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:00 PM
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New battery, still not running. The old one was bad though. I am looking through the service manual about testing all the sensors and it is saying I need a breakout box to do all of the tests. Do I really need that to test everything?

I tried to see if the injectors were pulsing while cranking the engine over with a test light and both wires have power even while cranking. They do not seem to be pulsing.

This cars electrical system seems to be much different than any other cars I have worked on. I don't seem to know where to start with this!
 
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Just checked the coolant temp sensor. It is at around 7 ohms. The temp here is around 60-70 deg. The service manual says it should be at 2800 ohms for 68 deg. If the sensor was bad, I would think the temp gauge would be pegged with this low resistance, but it is not.
 
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Engine seized up, problem solved.
 
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