No start
#1
No start
This is my '94 850. Car was running great yesterday with no problems.
I went to start my car this morning and it started up, but was running really rough and was making some noises. I shut it off and tried to start it again, but did not start. It almost sounds like no compression when turning over. I checked for spark and it has it. I tried to get a fuel pressure gauge on it, but the throttle cable bracket is in the way. It does seem to have pressure after each time of turning the key on, so I am assuming the pump is running. I tried cranking it over more, but the battery died and I can't seem to get it charged by jumping it. I checked out the timing marks and they still look lined up. The belt is in tact and still has good tension, so I don't think the timing belt jumped. I looked through the spark plug hole and could not see anything abnormal like damage, coolant, etc. I do not see any coolant in the oil and the coolant level is fine.
I did a compression test and here are the results.
#1-130 psi
#2-180 psi
#3-180 psi
#4-170 psi
#5-180 psi
I know #1 cylinder is quite a bit off, but shouldn't the car still run?
I am going to get the throttle cable bracket off so I can get a fuel pressure gauge on it.
I went to start my car this morning and it started up, but was running really rough and was making some noises. I shut it off and tried to start it again, but did not start. It almost sounds like no compression when turning over. I checked for spark and it has it. I tried to get a fuel pressure gauge on it, but the throttle cable bracket is in the way. It does seem to have pressure after each time of turning the key on, so I am assuming the pump is running. I tried cranking it over more, but the battery died and I can't seem to get it charged by jumping it. I checked out the timing marks and they still look lined up. The belt is in tact and still has good tension, so I don't think the timing belt jumped. I looked through the spark plug hole and could not see anything abnormal like damage, coolant, etc. I do not see any coolant in the oil and the coolant level is fine.
I did a compression test and here are the results.
#1-130 psi
#2-180 psi
#3-180 psi
#4-170 psi
#5-180 psi
I know #1 cylinder is quite a bit off, but shouldn't the car still run?
I am going to get the throttle cable bracket off so I can get a fuel pressure gauge on it.
Last edited by dan2286; 10-29-2009 at 11:35 AM. Reason: Accidentally submitted message
#5
Non-turbo
What would all of the sudden cause that kind of compression loss? It has been running fine before this.
I noticed that the tach is doing nothing.
I got some codes from A3 and they were 213,214, and 442. There was no stored codes in A2 or A6. A7 had 122 and 132.
I guess the code in A7 would explain nothing on the tach, but would it cause a no start?
I noticed that the tach is doing nothing.
I got some codes from A3 and they were 213,214, and 442. There was no stored codes in A2 or A6. A7 had 122 and 132.
I guess the code in A7 would explain nothing on the tach, but would it cause a no start?
#6
#7
130 PSI wouldn't cause an outright misfire. You should notice a bit of instability at idle, but that's it. I'd start with the RPM sensor code. The sensor itself is fine... that's no surprise, magnetic sensors rarely go bad- they're a magnet, a coil or wire. Nothing more. But wiring can go bad. So check the wiring between the ECM and sensor for continuity as a first step. Keep in mind- codes don't tell you what is wrong with the vehicle, they merely tell you where it "hurts." They can help you to make a diagnosis, they aren't, in themselves, a diagnosis. Good luck!
#8
130 PSI wouldn't cause an outright misfire. You should notice a bit of instability at idle, but that's it. I'd start with the RPM sensor code. The sensor itself is fine... that's no surprise, magnetic sensors rarely go bad- they're a magnet, a coil or wire. Nothing more. But wiring can go bad. So check the wiring between the ECM and sensor for continuity as a first step. Keep in mind- codes don't tell you what is wrong with the vehicle, they merely tell you where it "hurts." They can help you to make a diagnosis, they aren't, in themselves, a diagnosis. Good luck!
Will have updates tomorrow!
#9
New battery, still not running. The old one was bad though. I am looking through the service manual about testing all the sensors and it is saying I need a breakout box to do all of the tests. Do I really need that to test everything?
I tried to see if the injectors were pulsing while cranking the engine over with a test light and both wires have power even while cranking. They do not seem to be pulsing.
This cars electrical system seems to be much different than any other cars I have worked on. I don't seem to know where to start with this!
I tried to see if the injectors were pulsing while cranking the engine over with a test light and both wires have power even while cranking. They do not seem to be pulsing.
This cars electrical system seems to be much different than any other cars I have worked on. I don't seem to know where to start with this!
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