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Old 06-12-2014, 01:49 PM
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Ordered the correct key cylinder for my car as I have been hard headed and spent more in rental cars and tools and just should have had it done at Volvo. A quick question, if the stop pin falls out of the ignition key system, what is the negative affect of that?

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By the "stop pin" do you mean the small pin at the back which fits in the small hole in the back, is spring loaded and covered by the small light metal dome?


If so, I don't think the absence of this will have any effect on the operation of the lock. Based on a locksmith video this pin is properly called the "relocker pin". I have not found a specific explanation for the function of the pin, but based on it's name, its function would be to thwart theft by preventing the lock cylinder from being pried out. In locksmith terminology a "relocker" is a system which engages pins to prevent the locked door (e.g. door of a safe) from being opened if the normal lock is forced.


I removed the relocker pin from my wife's XC90 and the ignition switch has functioned properly without it for a couple of years.


The one concern I have is the possibility that the function of this pin is as backup system to prevent the steering column lock from engaging when the vehicle is underway. But I really don't think this is the function.

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Old 06-23-2014, 02:09 PM
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Bought the Volvo Ignition Key Cylinder Correct for my car and it started right up. Do not be a hardhead fix it yourself like I was. If it sticks, get the new cylinder and change it. Hands down......Thanks for the telling me I am wrong advise and yes I was wrong BUT I have always heard that education is not cheap......
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:26 PM
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This is an old thread but I have good news for you guys...

The fix is FREE, all you have to do is to remove the bottom rectangular plate and the spring.
All it takes is 30 min or so.
Detail below:


DIY: 1998 S70 GLT Ignition Tumbler FREE Fix!
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...c.php?p=351720
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:10 AM
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I didn't have a Dremel rotary tool to relieve the three peens in the pot metal which hold the steel plate on. I tried using an electric drill and it worked for me. I drilled at the peen punch holes, angling toward the plate. I was able to hook out the broken chip which was jamming the mechanism, so I was able to tap the plate snug again (although it would not go back flush to its original position).


I left the coil spring in place.


If one cannot get the chip out, then one should not attempt to tap the plate back into place. Just let it hang loose.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:04 PM
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Unhappy ignition lock cylinder or steering column issue? Help!!

There are too many hits on this "ignition lock cylinder" thread to allow me to think that Volvo does not know there is a design flaw here.
Mine is a 2001 V70 T24.
The problem has existed for 4 yrs. recently it would not turn at all.
I unlocked the steering column, moved the shaft to a different position, fiddled with the key and got it to turn.
Next day I locked the steering wheel. Could not turn the key. Again, I changed the position of the steering column, and the key worked. Now I am careful to never allow the steering wheel to "lock" and so far (only two days) so good.
I have no money to fix this. Also in new town, and do not know the lay of the mechanic land.
Any ideas? is it the lock, the steering or what?
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...I have no money to fix this. Also in new town, and do not know the lay of the mechanic land.
Any ideas? is it the lock, the steering or what?
Did you look at the FREE fix I posted above (post #43) above?
To see the photo at matthews volvo site, you need to register overthere.
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RE: DIY: 1998 S70 GLT Ignition Tumbler FREE Fix!
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...c.php?p=351720

Good fix for some, but may not work for later models.
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By the "stop pin" do you mean the small pin at the back which fits in the small hole in the back, is spring loaded and covered by the small light metal dome?

I removed the relocker pin from my wife's XC90 and the ignition switch has functioned properly without it for a couple of years.

The one concern I have is the possibility that the function of this pin is as backup system to prevent the steering column lock from engaging when the vehicle is underway. But I really don't think this is the function.
My 2004 XC70 (156k mil) just had this problem, the key wont turn, upon exam, the relocker seal cap popped, the stop-pin and spring fall off. I dont know if that was the root case of key not turning. I did try to put back the pin, but it did not seem to fix the key turning, and it was parked at a garage 30 min away from home...

so I ended up get it towed to dealer. the estimate cost is , $860 ! new lock cylinder, reprogram... I could have it towed to home and try to fix it myself, with holiday season coming up, I just want it a problem solved by $ ...

Speaking to design a defective product and making money off it. My faith in Volvo is taking a hit, I am not sure if my next car will be Volvo or not...
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As I watch the video of remove and disassemble the ignition lock; at the part that they needed two persons to push 4 pins in to pull the key cylinder out: He could cut head of 4 finish nails that fit the drilled holes, put a hose clam wrap around the pins then turn the clam nut in, it will push and hold the pins in, not need two person for that job.
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My 2004 XC70 (156k mil) just had this problem, the key wont turn, upon exam, the relocker seal cap popped, the stop-pin and spring fall off......
FYI (you aren't alone)

My 2007 XC-70 has the old key interlock design, which failed as you described, at 85,000 miles. I was lucky to be at a gas station. Nothing I did would release the lock, so I had the car towed ($150) and I paid a Volvo dealer $600 to replace the ignition switch assembly (2015).

It is a known problem and the lock assembly has a tendency to fail. The Volvo mechanics told me that a detent was broken. It is the only thing that has ever broken on the car, so I'm disappointed, but not unhappy.

The thing is, most luxury cars (and a lot of less expensive cars) were already using keyless push-button engine switches in 2007. Volvo and Mercedes have been slow to adopt the almost universal standards in electronics, car management computers, entertainment systems, and phone services.
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Exclamation thread that never dies...

newbie here: trying to fix same problem (key won't turn at all). been reading numerous threads on the web, including this relevant one here.

was in the process of filing back the crimps on the flat metal plate on the bottom of the ignition (still in car -- really hoping not to have to remove and deal with the security bolts) when this piece fell out onto the floor.





i assume this is the relocker pin? key will turn now... so i'm wondering if this was the problem and i can put everything back together, or if more likely i also have broken tab inside still and this was just a secondary problem?

btw, where exactly does the relocker pin go (and i don't see a spring anywhere).

thanks in advance.
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I intentionally removed the relocker pin in our XC90 in an attempt to free the lock, but this did not work. What worked was to loosen the bottom plate. I subsequently was able to hook out the broken off chip and press the bottom plate back in place. But if you do not remove the chip, then I think it is better to leave the bottom plate loose. If you press the plate back into place with the chip still lodged in the mechanism, then the lock may jam again.

I saw no reason to reinstall the relocker pin because IMHO it is overkill on security. I think the relocker pin is there either to prevent the cylinder from being forcibly extracted or to prevent the system being operable if the cylinder is removed by force. I don't think that is likely enough to warrant trying to reinstall the relocker pin. And I have the spring and press fit cap, but in your case it is lost. The pin fits in a hole on the firewall side of the lock body.

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